[TP]

Could someone tell me what was the class structure before BA47? Or was it BA46 which had this new class structure in use?

[grandnat]

TP, on Oct 12 2008, 02:56 PM, said:

Could someone tell me what was the class structure before BA47? Or was it BA46 which had this new class structure in use?

Old Format

Track 1. Warmup 1
Track 2. Warmup 2
Track 3. Cardio
Track 4. Pushups/Core
Track 5. Stabalizers
Track 6. Circle Cardio
Track 7. Split Room Cardio
Track 8. Peak Cardio
Track 9. Squat Recovery
Track 10. Cardio
Track 11, Peak Cardio
Track 12. Abs
Track 13. Cooldown

[TP]

Thanks!

How do you match the tracks in new format if you mix in some old tracks?

[gepl]

1. Warmup (old BA format track 1)
2. Mixed impact (old BA format track 2)
3. Aerobic (old BA format track 3)
4. Plyometric (old BA format track 6, no split room - class must be oriented to you, i.e. to the stage!)
5. Upper body conditioning (old BA format track 4)
6. Running (old BA format track 5)
7. Agility (old BA format track 9, split the room into two halves and find the appropriate time to change sides)
8. Interval (old BA format track 7)
9. Power (old BA format track 10)
10. Lower body conditioning (old BA format track 8 + a short track for core conditioning, i.e. from BA 57 or newer)
11. Cooldown (old BA format track 12)

For more details about incorporating old BA releases into the current format, check BA 47 DVD and choreo notes.

P.S. From BA 17 to BA 45 there were 12 separate tracks. If you skip "Track 5. Stabalizers" grandnat wrote you have the exact old format structure prior to BA 46.

[taylor]

The old format is kinda messy I feel, I have the older releases 46 and below and all tho their are some great tracks to mix with I do think the new format works a lot better!

[Special]

I agree Taylor. I participated in a couple of classes as a participant in the old format and it seemed very up and down and all over the place.

[Mel]

I think LMI officially recommend that you no longer use tracks prior to 46. Of course, there are some instructors that still do, but they don't recommend it. The tracks were choreographed differently to suit that structure. Tracks now are harder/easier to suit this format.

The matching of tracks that gepl posted was ideally just for during the transition phase, however there's enough releases now that you don't really ever need to use those old releases in your mixes.

[gepl]

True, although there are a few tracks from older releases that are very good and fit well into the current format. O:)

[Mel]

grandnat, on Oct 12 2008, 07:13 PM, said:

Old Format

Track 1. Warmup 1
Track 2. Warmup 2
Track 3. Cardio
Track 4. Pushups/Core
Track 5. Stabalizers
Track 6. Circle Cardio
Track 7. Split Room Cardio
Track 8. Peak Cardio
Track 9. Squat Recovery
Track 10. Cardio
Track 11, Peak Cardio
Track 12. Abs
Track 13. Cooldown

I'm just trying to understand this old format for attack for my database at the new tracklist site on totallylesmills.com

What I can't figure out, is this format says there are 13 tracks, but almost all of the releases have only 12 tracks pre-BA46, and some in the very beginning had 14 or even 16 tracks.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

[Special]

I think that list has accidentally been split.

Track 4 should be Push-ups core stabilisers, and Track 5 goes straight to Circle Cardio.

I am just going from that list though - I haven't actually looked at my little piece of paper with the format on it that I wrote ages ago.

All the old releases I know have 12 tracks. The ones with more than that must be older than I have ever seen.

[nowhere]

Mel, on Jun 6 2009, 10:40 PM, said:

I'm just trying to understand this old format for attack for my database at the new tracklist site on totallylesmills.com

What I can't figure out, is this format says there are 13 tracks, but almost all of the releases have only 12 tracks pre-BA46, and some in the very beginning had 14 or even 16 tracks.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

These were how the tracks were described in the notes:

BODYATTACK 3
1. Warm up
2. Light cardio
3. Medium cardio
4. Circle cardio
5. Cardio
6. Press up
7. Cardio
8. Cardio
9. Circle cardio
10. Hard cardio
11. Squat
12. Butt
13. Abdominal
14. Warm down

BODYATTACK 4
1. Warm up
2. Hi/Lo warm up
3. Medium cardio
4. Medium/Hard cardio
5. Circle cardio
6. Hard cardio
7. Squat/Recovery
8. Press up
9. Medium cardio
10. Medium/Hard cardio
11. Circle cardio
12. Hard cardio
13. Squat
14. Butt
15. Abbs (sic)
16. Warm down

Interestingly, the notes for Release 5 had this to say about Release 4:

"BODY ATTACK 4
*Suggestion tor alternative structures:-
1) Auckland Structure
No 1
No 2
No 3
No 4
No 5
No 6
No 7 or 13
No 8
No 14 (Option)
No 15
No 9
No 10
No 11
No 12
No 7 or 13
No 16

2) 50 Minute class
No 1
No 2
No 3
No 4
No 5
No 6
No 8
No 9 or 10
No 11
No 12
No 13
No 14 or 15
No. 16
Note: A number of centres are omitting Butt tracks from their classes opting for a hard squat. If so the inclusion of a butt track into classes will allow more scope for variety.

If studio size is a problem with movement tracks ie:- effective diagonal, modify the track to become static or forward and back. But be careful of foot strikes if making modifications to tracks."

BODYATTACK 5
1. Low impact warm up
2. Hi-Lo warm up
3. Medium cardio
4. Medium hard cardio
5. Circle cardio
6. Hard cardio
7. Press up
8. Medium cardio
9. Hard cardio
10. Circle cardio
11. Hard cardio
12. Squat
13. Abdominals
14. Warm down


...so I guess the early releases played around with the format a bit until it evened out. I have the notes if you want to PM about them.

[Mel]

thanks nowhere! I can't believe someone still has the notes, this is awesome!

Sending you a PM

[Special]

I would love to see what the notes looked like back then. And what kind of moves they had.
I assume this was before Lisa was around.

[gepl]

Lisa "came around" and co-choreographed BA 38. From 39 onward only she's mentioned as a choreographer.

I'm wondering whether she's present on BA 37 video. Have to take a closer look. 8)

[nowhere]

Little blast from the past - this is a cover of the notes to Jazzerobics. 10 points if you can identify who's in it.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RHOfDpaLNA4/SjAKJfjb...mvze4/pmils.jpg

And these were the lovely photocopied notes we used to work from...
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RHOfDpaLNA4/SjAMAmwL...LbQI/newpic.jpg

[Special]

Is it Phillip Mills? I don't know who the girl is.

[Mel]

Sorry I edited the post to show the links, because the images weren't showing, but still can't see the images.

[nowhere]

Mel, on Jun 11 2009, 08:11 PM, said:

Sorry I edited the post to show the links, because the images weren't showing, but still can't see the images.

oh, thanks for that - the second image isn't showing cos it should be 'newpic.jpg', not 'nwpic.jpg'. it'll work if you change that. cheers

[gepl]

I can see the extract from the notes, but the other link doesn't work... :cry:

[Mel]

I changed the second link as requested, but still neither link works for me