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#1 User is offline   TP 

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 06:28 AM

As many of us have noticed, in Bodybalance same songs have be reused many times. And I don't mean that they reuse a song which have been in another Les Mills program, but songs that have been in earlier Bodybalance releases. And what I've been asking around, people don't really like the reusing.

Now, what confuses me is this one bit from Bodybalance 43 Sizzler: "Sheryl Crow's Always On Your Side is back by popular demand"
To whom do they refer with this "popular demand"???
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 06:59 PM

View PostTP, on Sep 15 2008, 08:28 AM, said:

As many of us have noticed, in Bodybalance same songs have be reused many times. And I don't mean that they reuse a song which have been in another Les Mills program, but songs that have been in earlier Bodybalance releases. And what I've been asking around, people don't really like the reusing.

Now, what confuses me is this one bit from Bodybalance 43 Sizzler: "Sheryl Crow's Always On Your Side is back by popular demand"
To whom do they refer with this "popular demand"???

Why all the people in the luvie crowd at the start of the videos. I like BB and almost all LMI releases, but really...
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 07:19 PM

I don't have a problem with this - as long as I like the song :biggrin:

The thing that gets me is that if you teach more than one programe they quite often use the same song in more than one release so you have to learn 2 sets of coreo for the same track. I have yet to get the pumpers doing tai chi or vice versa but I am sure I will someday!
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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:19 PM

You also have the "suggest a song" section at lesmills.com - you'll find that a lot of current, or very recent songs have been suggested there. That may well qualify their "by popular demand" claim.

Who knows - isn't it time Misere is re-used again?? Might spam the website, haha!
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Posted 19 September 2008 - 11:46 AM

Yeah, I wondered who the "popular demand" was coming from.
I don't have a problem with that "Always on your side" song, but we have it in balance, we've even heard it in Pump. I would prefer something new in Balance.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:09 PM

Personally, I loved "Center of the Sun" both times around. Actually teaching the "FF" version of it tonight. Same with "Silence"....loved it in #19, Loved it the second time around too. (Also loved it in RPM!)...3 different versions of a GREAT song IMO.
As far as reusing songs between programs....I guess I am tolerent of it to an extent. I do know we are getting TWO recycled Pump songs in RPM 40...that was a bit much, but at least they are good songs. What I am really waiting for is some SCOOTER in Body Balance LOL! :biggrin:
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Posted 30 September 2008 - 12:07 AM

View PostFizzio, on Sep 18 2008, 10:19 PM, said:

Who knows - isn't it time Misere is re-used again?? Might spam the website, haha!


You have my support. But then again I do have a very special, secret training video for that track .. :-&

Anyway you may want to check the spelling: miserere :biggrin:


About reusing music in general: if the song is good.....Mind Mozart, Bach, et cetra are being reused every single day. Bits of their music are taken and transformed into a new song. As long this is done well I don't have any problem with it.


And for those who disagree with the music being used: like mentioned above LM is open to suggestions. Put your effort into doing that.... :tongue:
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Posted 30 September 2008 - 09:59 AM

Peoples, lets face it - we are going to get music rehashed and reused all the time. Even Bodyjam gets some familiar songs popping up every so often (including in the current release jam 46) as well as RPM.

It must be the thing to do nowadays - even Rihanna is sampling the numa numa song (Dragonsta Din Tei by Ozone) in her latest song. She must be getting stuck for inspiration
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Posted 14 October 2008 - 11:43 AM

View Postjohn, on Sep 30 2008, 02:07 AM, said:

You have my support. But then again I do have a very special, secret training video for that track .. :-&



lol, there's only 1 copy of it.............very very unique :lol:



as for reusing songs? bah.........I guess I'm like beemoe, I'm pretty tolerant. I've always been too busy learning chorrey to worry about whether it's a reused track or not ;)
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 05:55 AM

I agree - its quite obvious in the latest BB quarterly when we were doing the meditation - My mind instantly response -> What? Way of Life Again ?

Not too sure but is it because of cost cutting around ? Even the DVD covers are reused from the posters this quarter....
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Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:07 PM

View Postkasnol, on Nov 19 2008, 05:55 AM, said:

I agree - its quite obvious in the latest BB quarterly when we were doing the meditation - My mind instantly response -> What? Way of Life Again ?

Not too sure but is it because of cost cutting around ? Even the DVD covers are reused from the posters this quarter....



Don't the DVD covers always use the poster image? Certainly every release I've had for all of the programmes I teach (5 of them) has used the poster picture as the DVD cover...
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Posted 20 November 2008 - 03:35 AM

I can't say I know why they choose to reuse tracks (especially a meditation track - that struck me as odd), but I do know it's a myth that reusing songs costs any less - every song is licensed individually so there is no money saved by reusing an old song, or having the same song in BP & RPM for example.
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:17 AM

I have good and bad news :-)

Bad: BodyBalance 44 has a song that is in BB for the third time.
Good: It's a wonderfull song, I love it and I don't mind at all.

Do you think participants notice the repeated songs as much as we do? ALso when they reuse a song from the same program they usually go far far back. How many members do you have that do BodyBalance since more than let's say 20 releases??

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:48 AM

View Postdanielkvc, on Dec 31 2008, 11:17 AM, said:

I have good and bad news :-)

Bad: BodyBalance 44 has a song that is in BB for the third time.
Good: It's a wonderfull song, I love it and I don't mind at all.


I know that the Tai Chi is a Conjure One song which was originally sued as a Sun Sal (in 28 or 29) - but that was a cover version by Emerald Green.

What's the track that's making a 3rd appearance.......?
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 08:36 PM

I wonder what's wrong with Jackie, why she keeps reusing songs... There are millions of songs to choose from, dear Dr. Jackie Mills!
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Posted 01 January 2009 - 03:55 PM

yeah I'm curious about this third track.............I'm thinking of miserere. I wouldn't mind if that track comes back again.
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 04:40 PM

View PostMel, on Jan 1 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

yeah I'm curious about this third track.............I'm thinking of miserere. I wouldn't mind if that track comes back again.



Desert rose no 9 and no 24 and I think if they pay the same amount for licencing they could give us new songs, that suggestion list of songs has some great songs, (but in the same breath lets see what happens with the PPCA decision as we might end up with lots of covers:(...)
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 02:56 AM

Yeah - this is my 1 'gripe' with Les Mills - using the same songs throughout the different programs.....
I don't really do balance (I suck at it), but I do combat, attack & pump regularly and sometimes the same song can be in all 3 programs!

This must be a headache for all the instructors who teach multiple programs, trying to learn all the choreography!

Surely when Les Mills are selecting songs for a program like Pump, they can go through ther list of suggested songs and they may come across one and say "well we can't use that song, because that has already been used in Body Combat".... or something like that....?? #-o
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