[mikesbytes]

It would be great if LM provided some proper information

[jaffa]

mikesbytes, on 25 July 2010 - 11:44 PM, said:

It would be great if LM provided some proper information

Mike, where in sydney do you teach?

[mikesbytes]

jaffa, on 26 July 2010 - 12:16 PM, said:

Mike, where in sydney do you teach?

FF

[Mel]

lol I'd love to see that email jaffa!

[jaffa]

Strange question Mike, did you participate in the last BB launch at Chatswood?

[mikesbytes]

jaffa, on 27 July 2010 - 12:10 PM, said:

Strange question Mike, did you participate in the last BB launch at Chatswood?

Nope, haven't been to FF Chats for a while. My daytime job is contract and I've worked off and on at Chats, but now that customer has moved, so I'm not likely to be back.

R u a BB instructor?

[jaffa]

Yep, bb - plus ba and bs. I teach mainly on the north shore and beaches, but cos of work I sometimes head to the city, or could
be as far away as castle towers or parramatta.

[mikesbytes]

Jaffa, we have probably crossed paths. PM me your name and I'll try to make it to one of your BB classes sometime.

[Placebo]

My first gym is going PPCA free from Sept 1st, and would you believe it's taken me about an hour to sort out my Attack mix from now until the launch of Attack 70?!

And that's just Attack, haven't even started on Pump or Combat yet At least there are less to choose from in those programs

[Marty F]

Just saw that LM have released the "Best Ofs" for BC, BV and BJ - $29.95 + freight online.

BP and RPM will be last week of August (they hope)

From now on, all releases will only be PPCA-free. We are NOT given both versions, like previously mentioned - just the PPCA-free version.


From reading the response to instructors on Facebook, the "Best Ofs" are primarily from the PPCA-free list we've had for a while. There are a few tracks that are new (as in re-done I believe). As I'm not trained in any of the so-far released "Best Of" programs, I can't check lists, but maybe someone else can take a look on LMAP site.

That's all from the LMAP Facebook updates.

Placebo, on 02 August 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

My first gym is going PPCA free from Sept 1st, and would you believe it's taken me about an hour to sort out my Attack mix from now until the launch of Attack 70?!

And that's just Attack, haven't even started on Pump or Combat yet At least there are less to choose from in those programs

Be thankful that you have so much time! We were given 2 days notice to move PPCA-free.

Although, the gym has since reversed that decision until November 2010, where they have given us warning that the change is coming, and will provide 30 days written notice. So I'm getting all of my PPCA goodness out of my system.

Just a shame I only teach BA there, not BB, as I'm still stuck in the PPCA-free BB world.

This post has been edited by Marty F: 02 August 2010 - 05:38 AM

[Special]

I only had a quick look at Combat, but it seems they remade 1 half of the warm up, to make the entire warm up PPCA free. The rest is just stuff that was already PPCA free.

[Marty F]

Special, on 02 August 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

I only had a quick look at Combat, but it seems they remade 1 half of the warm up, to make the entire warm up PPCA free. The rest is just stuff that was already PPCA free.

Figured as much based on the FB feedback... people are pretty upset by this.

I wonder if all releases worldwide will be PPCA-free now, or if it's just LMAP that get these ones.

Surely financially it's not in LMI's best interest to release two versions of the disc due to copyright implications (one for the original artist, one for the cover artist and rights to the song)

[Placebo]

Yep, there's some mighty ticked off instructors on fb at present. I think the problem was that the communication about "best of" fell short of the mark. LM never came right out and said that they weren't remaking anything, so that left people thinking there was going to be more tracks available - instead of just the one or two that were re-done.

In all honesty, LMI had to go PPCA-free for Australia as it's such a huge market. I mean, imagine if all the major gym chains just dropped LM programs? LM would lose untold amounts of dollars in licensing fees, not to mention good will. They would never get the trade back. The hole in the group fitness industry would immediately be filled with "Radical Fitness" and USAs "BTS" (Group Ride/Kick/Power, Centergy etc).

[mikesbytes]

BODYBALANCE, RPM & BODYPUMP 'BEST OF' TRACK LISTING

BODYPUMP

1. Don't Leave Me With The Light On Deep Radar
2. Get This Party Started Sun Flash
3. I Don't Care Bodytronix
4. What Hurts The Most Computer Love
5. Who Knew Masia
6. What I've Done Hiroshi Free
7. Raindrops MorningStar
8. All I Ever Wanted DJ Reflex
9. All Summer Long Bandlands Inc
10. Chasing Cars ForeverYours

BODYBALANCE

1. I Will Find You Dandylions
2. Apparition Global Nation
3. Magnificent Yellow Hue
4. Shine Amanda Myers
5. The Way You Want To Be Paper Folds
6. Crazy OneZeroOne feat. Ant P
7. Broken Strings Cherry Stone
8. Little Wonders Sarah Aroha
9. Glory RoadPat McIllroy Vocal Group
10. Silent Wave Emerald Green

RPM

1. Life Is A Highway Milan Roscoe
2. Who Knew Masia
3. Show Me Heaven Arms of Dub
4. Real The Cranials
5. Voodoo People Young Drake
6. Adelante MorningStar
7. Because the Night Voodoo Beats
8. Broken Strings Cherry Stone
9. I'll Stand By You Royal Trail

[Special]

Pump seems decent. Balance doesn't seem worth buying - only 2 re-made songs.
I can only hope that because LMNZ is doing the covers, they are decent.

This whole PPCA mess has me feeling crabby again. Can't they just sort their shit out and let us get back to teaching awesome classes with great music.

[Mel]

Geeesh, this is kinda a shit way of handling it, and it's 1 point score to the PPCA.

I really hope we're getting the same as the rest of the world. I will be peeved if we can't at least have the back catalog of original music if the decision is ever reversed.

On the other hand, having the original music along side the copied version will make instructors complain more and be tempted to break the rules. On the other hand, there are easily means and ways of getting the copies (ssssh, I didn't say that!). That's IF LM are sending a seperate disc to Australia?

Meanwhile, in a newsletter from Fitness Australia:

Quote

"Fitness Australia is currently considering a proposal to attend a mediated negotiation with the PPCA with the objective of arriving at a commercial resolution of the Fitness Class Tariff and avoiding the time and costs associated with a review of the Copyright Tribunal decision in the Federal Court. We will continue to keep the industry informed of any further updates on this matter."

[Marty F]

Mel, on 03 August 2010 - 07:00 PM, said:

I really hope we're getting the same as the rest of the world. I will be peeved if we can't at least have the back catalog of original music if the decision is ever reversed.

From speaking with someone who is a little closer in the LM family, it sounds as if we are only going to be given the PPCA-free versions from now on.

The rest of the world will continue to get the PPCA versions as they do not have the copyright issues we are having.

But, given the misinformation we've been given before, I really don't know what to believe until we get the official word from LMAP to see what's happening.

Special, on 03 August 2010 - 06:54 PM, said:

Pump seems decent. Balance doesn't seem worth buying - only 2 re-made songs.I can only hope that because LMNZ is doing the covers, they are decent.

Again, from said source, the Q3 music is sounding better than the Q2, so fingers crossed. LMI have proven in the past they can produce top notch covers, so let's hope Q3 is no exception.

The Balance "Best Of" has some positive, but also could have been better - 2 re-made tracks (which is great as they are 1 and 5 which we only have BB49 to use at the moment), but the rest I already have... it would have been great if they went back to 26 and 29 for the Sun Salutations as you can't buy those any more (while you can still buy 40 which is where "Apparition" comes from), so technically you can still get Apparition the legit way.

I'm at the stage now where I'm a lot more content with the decision - sure it's upsetting as there are some great BB releases that we can no longer use, but there's little we can do about it. I was in the situation where one of my clubs went PPCA-free with 2 days notice - so we didn't get the chance to do our favourite tracks one last time. But they have since reversed the decision - but we still went PPCA-free for about a month. They've told us it will change in November, with official warning in October, so I'm looking at the bright side and the fact that we have 3 months left to use whatever we want - and I'm using this to my advantage - getting all of the old PPCA music into my BA mixes (Total Eclipse, Objection, Rock Star, Zombie, etc) and pumping it hard as this is it - the last time - but at least I know over the next three months, it will be the last time so I'm ready for it.

And you know what - my classes rock because I'm picking the great music for right now. Yes, it's upsetting that I can't use it past November, but for right now, members don't care - they're getting a great workout, I'm getting slightly scary with my enthusiasm to said great music, and the classes are a smash. So I'm just trying to continue doing this.

Just a shame that I'm stuck in the PPCA-free only Balance... mixed what I can but still...

[Mel]

I have just received an email from LMAP which no doubt every other instructor has just got. This of course confirms what I think we knew anyway, that all of Australia is going PPCA free.

Quote

We would like to take this opportunity to announce that all music kits distributed in Australia will contain covered music only - there will be no original music used on any kits from this time forward.

Interestingly enough, when you think about it this is actually a clever and very political move from LMAP, because this in effect totally renders the PPCA licensing completely useless. The PPCA believed that some gyms would be able to have a competitive advantage by choosing to stay with original music, but if LMAP are no longer producing PPCA music, then where's the advantage? What gym will pay the licensing fees for the priviledge to play back catalogues?

As far as I know, most freestyle music is already PPCA free.

One more nail in the coffin for the PPCA.